You said something about the mayor of New York. Would you, for my sake, repeat what you said that his comment was when someone was found to be pregnant?

Mr. WARDLE. I am quoting from news reports. "These media mogul reportedly once told a pregnant employee to, 'kill it, kill it."" I would add, as I do in my written testimony, Bloomberg has denied making the comment, but it was cited in legal papers of Sekiko Sakai Garrison, a former Bloomberg news staffer, who brought one of three publicized sex harassment cases

Mr. STRICKLAND. Yes, sir.

Mr. WARDLE. [continuing] against him or his company.

Mr. STRICKLAND. I just think it would have been more fair of you to have relayed his denial at the time when you relayed what supposedly was his comment. I don't know Mr. Bloomberg, have no affiliation or any particular sympathy for him, but I think to put out such a statement without also giving us his denial was a little unfair to him.

Mr. WARDLE. Well, I did give it to you in writing, and I just read it to complete the record, sir.

Mr. STRICKLAND. Well, thank you for that. Ms. Vosburgh, this may have been discussed when I wasn't here, and if it is, I apologize. But does your hospital believe that it should perform an abortion under any circumstances?

Ms. VOSBURGH. Yes, rape, incest, life of the mother. It is in the policy that they every year rewrite, which lines up with Federal law too, with title X.

Mr. STRICKLAND. I was just unsure because I was not here.

Ms. VOSBURGH. Yes. And while I am on here, I would like to answer Mrs. Capps. She said since we are a hospital, I am on the board-Okay, sorry.

Mr. STRICKLAND. Yes. I am sorry, we only have 5 minutes. I think Ms. Capps may have I hope the chairman will give us a second round here.

Mr. BILIRAKIS. I am not contemplating doing that. We have another panel to go yet.

Mr. STRICKLAND. Okay. Well, I am

Ms. VOSBURGH. I would have been finished by now anyway. Well, the thing is we are elected

Mr. STRICKLAND. Well, I will respect your right to

Ms. VOSBURGH. Okay. Well, we are elected. We are elected from the community, from our community. We are elected, and we elect people onto the operating board which make that decision, and the community, the body of the community does not want-they do not want abortions there. Abortions to the majority of the community there, it is an abhorrent thing. It is the taking of human life. Very tiny, yes, but it is human life. That is what fetus means, little one. And it is killing them.

Mr. STRICKLAND. Can I interrupt here?

Ms. VOSBURGH. Yes.

Mr. STRICKLAND. Because

belief

Ms. VOSBURGH. No.

you expressing a religious

Mr. STRICKLAND. [continuing] when you say that or are you expressing a scientific belief? And if it is a scientific belief, then it

is not a matter of conscience, it is a matter of judgment, it seems

to me.

Ms. VOSBURGH. It is a matter of humanity. I mean we need to protect all of us.

Mr. STRICKLAND. I do think the Constitution does grant legitimate exceptions for a lot of things based on religious belief. It troubles me that someone could just-some group of individuals could just decide that this is a moral issue devoid of religious theological context and then claim the kind of protections that I think are only available to those who use a religious test for their particular beliefs.

Mr. BILIRAKIS. Without objection, the gentleman is granted an additional minute.

Mr. STRICKLAND. You are very kind.

Mr. BILIRAKIS. Took you by surprise.

Mr. STRICKLAND. You are very kind, Mr. Chairman. I will not accept that gracious invitation. Thank you so much.

Mr. BILIRAKIS. Mr. Akin, did you have maybe a quick question you might raise to this panel? You are not a member of the committee, but I know the other members would not mind if you raised a particular question.

Mr. AKIN. I appreciate the offer.

Mr. BILIRAKIS. All right. Well, we customarily-first of all, thank you. We customarily present questions in writing to the panelists and we will ask you to respond to those in a timely fashion. What is timely? Well, anyhow, 2 or 3 weeks we would hope at the most. So I hope you won't mind receiving those questions and will respond. And we can only thank you. Ms. Weiss came from New York, Mr. Wardle

Ms. CAPPS. Mr. Chairman?

Mr. BILIRAKIS. [continuing] from Utah and Ms. Vosburgh from Alaska, so you have come quite a long distance, particularly two of you. Yes, ma'am?

Ms. CAPPS. May I suggest that we offer a second round or request that you consider it?

Mr. BILIRAKIS. I would rather not because we have a second panel who is just sitting here, and it is the prerogative of the Chair, as I understand it, and I hope you don't mind, but I would rather not do that. All right. You are excused. Thank you so very much.

Panel II consists of Ms. Addia—is that correct?

Ms. WUCHNER. Addia Wuchner, yes.

Mr. BILIRAKIS. Addia, yes, I am sorry. Ms. Wuchner, Dr. Renee Jenkins, on behalf of the American Academy of Pediatrics, and Mr. John Heisler who is going to be better introduced by I suppose it is his congressman, Mr. Manzullo who has asked-Mr. Manzullo asked for the right to introduce Mr. Heisler. Please proceed, Don. Mr. MANZULLO. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have to introduceit is my pleasure to introduce my constituent and then I have to run to catch an airplane. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to introduce my constituent, John Heisler. Mr. Heisler is a member of the McHenry County Board. He spent the past several years as the county board's liaison to the Board of Health. Our paths crossed in 1997 when one of the communities in McHenry County,

Crystal Lake, was devastated by the news that a 13-year-old girl had been repeatedly sexually assaulted by her 37-year-old junior high school teacher. The teacher eventually was sentenced to 10 years in prison.

But the following the arrest was even more shocking, the teacher had used the title X Federal Family Planning Program at the McHenry County Health Department to shield his crime, and taxpayers were footing the bill. Tired of using condoms, the teacher brought the young girl to a place where he knew she could get birth control drugs without anybody finding out, the federally funded county health department. The teacher knew that title X rules prohibited clinics from notifying parents when issuing birth control drugs to young girls.

When the girl arrived, a clinic worker injected her with a powerful birth control drug, Depo-Provera, a hormonal drug that possesses severe side effects, including excessive bleeding and bone loss. Eighteen months later into the crime, the little girl broke down, told her parents, she underwent intensive therapy and battled anorexia.

The whole argument for providing young girls birth control drugs behind their parents' back is cloaked in the double standards, which Mr. Heisler will bring out. But as a result of what happened in McHenry County, we, in 1998, approved my parental notification bill. The Senate never acted on the provision, however, and it died. But we did get legislation that passed, that became law, that title X clinics are not following, and that is that whenever they have reason to believe that a minor is under the age of consent, these title X agencies have the statutory duty to follow local State laws requiring notification to authorities that a child is indeed being raped. That was the two-part prong of the bill that we got passed. It is quite a story that Mr. Heisler has to tell. Again, I appreciate the opportunity to introduce him and I would ask to be excused. Mr. BILIRAKIS. Thank you.

Mr. AKIN. Thank you.

Mr. BILIRAKIS. The Chair excuses the gentleman.
Ms. Wuchner?

STATEMENTS OF ADDIA WUCHNER, NORTHERN KENTUCKY INDEPENDENT HEALTH DISTRICT; RENEE S. JENKINS, ON BEHALF OF THE AMERICAN ACADEMY OF PEDIATRICS; AND JOHN A. HEISLER, COUNTY BOARD, MCHENRY COUNTY, ILLINOIS

Ms. WUCHNER. Thank you. Mr. Chairman and members of the Committee, I appreciate this opportunity to be here today to discuss with you the issue of a parent's right to know, especially as it pertains to medical treatment of minor children without their parents' knowledge or notification.

I am a mother of three, a registered nurse, with a background in women's health. I currently serve on the board of directors for the Northern Kentucky Independent District Health Department and Chair the Community on Human Sexuality Education.

Most parents would be shocked to learn that their teenage daughters may walk into one any of the title X federally funded clinics and obtain free birth control, including injectables such as

Depo-Provera, emergency contraceptives, the morning after pill, without the knowledge or notification of their parents. They would be shocked because, for centuries, all sorts of rights flowing from the parent-child relationship have been acknowledged and protected by law, among them decisions concerning custody, the education and the medical treatment of their children. Yet today, when it comes to sex and the prevention and treatment of pregnancy and the prevention and treatment of sexually transmitted diseases, is seems neither mother nor father are trusted to know what is best. The Northern Kentucky Board recently passed a motion to gather community input and review title X and Family Planning Services. This review led them to a vote. But the review led to much more. It led to the highlight of the many strings attached to title X which we will discuss today. For example, Section 8.7 states, "Title X projects many not require the written consent of parents or guardians for provisions of services to minors, nor can the project notify parents or guardians before or after a minor has requested and received title X-funded family planning services."

Section 8.6 states, "Title X projects must offer women and minors with a diagnosis of pregnancy, counseling, which is to include pregnancy termination along with information on prenatal care delivery, infant care and foster care."

We found title X policies contradicted our health board's commitment in 2000 to under title V funding to fund a model of characterbased abstinence education that included the importance of parental communication. It was apparent to most of us on the board that title X was problematic and would remain so, as it currently exists, because it erodes the parent's right and the parental/child relationship, and it blocks their right to monitor their children's health. It was resolved by the majority of board members that on a local level this may not be the place to deal with this issue of parental notification, but rather it should be addressed at State and at national legislative levels.

Mr. Chairman, committee members, one-third of approximately 5 million women served by the title X programs are U.S. teenagers. In Northern Kentucky, females under the age of 18 represent 24 percent of those came in with parental knowledge, but 75 percent of the young women seen in our clinics are seen without parental notification. The clinics see and treat girls as young as 12 years old. I would like to share with you the day-to-day realities of title X.

Just this year, in one of our Northern Kentucky clinics, a 14year-old girl came in with her boyfriend's mother. Upon the initial interview, she denied being sexually active, but it was important to her that her boyfriend and his mother like her. The boyfriend's mother wanted the girl to be put on the birth control so that she would not become pregnant when her son had sex with her. Please keep in mind the girl was 14 years old. The adult who brought her into the clinic was not her mother. Following title X guidelines, the 14-year-old's mother could not be notified.

Or what about the 12-year-old who had sex last Thanksgiving holiday and stated she didn't know why she did, she wanted the boy to like her and not get mad. What about her parents? She is only 12 years old. Is putting her on the pill the Government's solu

tion? Perhaps we can prevent her from becoming pregnant, but she will also need to use a condom, and that will only prevent some of the sexually transmitted diseases that she will be exposed to. She is 12 and routinely forgets her homework assignments. A 14-yearold girl, recently seen in a local emergency room with a sexually transmitted infection, gave a medical history of already having five different sexual partners.

Title X specifies that a minor must be treated as an adult when seeking family planning services, yet these are really children at risk, children in engaging in adult behaviors. These high-risk behaviors do not need the cloak of government-funded clinics providing a pill to replace behavioral interventions but rather a true model of health would provide interventions when necessary that assists parents in building a bridge rather than a wedge in the parental and child relationship.

It is in the context of the parent/child relationship that the norms and values of the family are transmitted. A minor cannot legally sign a document or a contract. The school nurse cannot give her an aspirin. She cannot have her ears pierced at the mall without her parents' okay. Yet title X allows this minor to decide and receive family planning services and medications without her parents' knowledge. This means that your daughter, your granddaughters or any minor female can be put on hormonal medications or given an emergency birth control without notification of her parents or guardians, those most knowledgeable of her health and family health history.

Mr. BILIRAKIS. Please summarize.

Ms. WUCHNER. It is irresponsible to move in this direction. Mr. Chairman and members of the committee, a common sense wisdom and sound medical practice would agree that parents have the right to monitor their child's health care and well being. As Government and as a Nation, we must support the first building blocks of our society, the family, by restoring a parent's right to know and monitor their child's health and their well being. Thank you. [The prepared statement of Addia Wuchner follows:]

PREPARED STATEMENT OF ADDIA WUCHNER, BOARD OF DIRECTORS, NORTHERN KENTUCKY INDEPENDENT HEALTH DISTRICT

Mr. Chairman and Members of the Committee: I appreciate the opportunity to be here today to discuss the issues of a "parent's right to know", especially where it pertains to medications or medical treatment and care, in this case, adolescent reproductive health and the distribution of hormonal birth control agents and devices to minors without parental knowledge or notification.

I am a registered nurse with a background in women's health. I currently serve on the Board of Directors of the Northern Kentucky Independent District Health Department and Chair the Human Sexual Education Committee. I was appointed to the Board and serve as the designee of Judge Executive Gary Moore of Boone County, Kentucky. The Health District provides services for a four county region. Most parents would be shocked to learn that their teenage daughter may walk into Ikone of these federally funded clinics and obtain free contraceptives, including injectables such as Depo-Provera, and emergency contraceptives (the morning after pill) without their knowledge or notification.

They would be shocked because, for centuries, all sorts of rights flowing from the parent-child relationship have been acknowledged and protected by law, among them decisions concerning custody, education and medical care. Yet today, when it comes to sex, the prevention and "treatment" of pregnancy, and the prevention and treatment of sexually transmitted diseases, the federal government tells us that neither Mother nor Father knows best.