For OCTOBER, 1739. CONTAINING, /Roze in Quantity, and greater Barietp, than anp Book of the Wind and Price/ I. DEBATES in the Houfe of Clinabs of Great Lilliput continued. Remainder of Urg, Piemahm's Speech against addreffing for Papers relating to the Con vention. The Anfwer of Wimgul Gumdahm, Hurgolen. Speech of Wimgal Tegon, Hurgolen, in answer to the foregoing. The Speech of Wimgul Pulnub, Urg; his Motion for an Addrefs; Refo lutions of the Clinabs. Speech of the Prime Minister's Brother. The Anfwer of Juan Branard, Hurgolet. II. Extra& from Pere Bergeant on the Language and Soul of Brutes; the Opi. nions of Descartes, the Peripatetics, Lactantius, and others, of the fame. III. A new Method of making Women ufeful, to prevent their becoming old! Maids, &c. By a Lady. The inward Leadings of the Spirit explained with regard to Mr Whitfield. New Method of making Maps, &c. By SYLVANUS IV. ESSAYS POLITICAL and HUM OROUS, &c. from the publick Papers. Craftfman on the Election of a Lord Mayor. Obfervations on the Govern ment of Holland. Subjects Right of petitioning the Throne. Letter from a convinced Cuckold, with Advice in that Cafe, c. Over-arming a Sign of Fear. Prime Minister anfwerable for a War he don't approve. V. POETRY, The contented Clown. A VI. HISTORICAL CHRONICLE. War URBAN, Gent. LONDON: Printed by E. CAVE, jun. at St JOHN'S GATE, and Sold by the Bookfellers in Town and Country; of whom may be had any former Month, alfo complete Sets in eight Vols on Royal or common Paper, beginning with 1731. R Emander of Urg, Plemahm's Speech Extract from Pere Bougcant, of the Let 504 again addrelling for Papers relating to an unfinished Treaty Anfwer of Wingal Gumdakm, Hurgolen ib In political Transactions the Minister's Conduct alone to be canvafs'd Expediency of a fecret Committee ib H Refolutions of the Senate a Direction for the Ministry 505 H Why the Iberians, for 20 Moors paft, have obferved no Sripulations SOGE What Conduct ought to be obferved towards the other Powers of Degulia 507 The Flect of Lilliput fufficient against feveral united Powers 508 E Encroachments of her Rights of Navigati. on and Commerce to be strictly enquir'd into 509 H Minifters not to be condemn'd, before the particular Motives, from which they a&, are known A new Method of Treaty-making, without one definitive Treaty 511 D Two Caufes of the contemptuous Behaviour of Theria in C Anfwer of Wimgulregon, Hurgolen, to the foregoing 512 515 E guage of Brutes ib E ih 7. 529 10 of Lactantius, and others 530 431 A Letter concerning Maps Public Cenfors among the Chinese 535 537 538 C $39 a Pam Remarks of fome Gazetteers on the forego ing 540 541 ib E 543 531 WINTER im544 A wrong Conftruction of the Lilliputian A Prime Minister answerable for a War, Blefufcu not to be provoked on account of Speech of the Prime Minifter's Brother 522 Bad Confequences of the Address ib The Anfwer of Jaan Branard, Hurgolet 524 A Scheme to mae Women more useful 525 A rational Account of the inward Leadings of the Spirit Corner Stone of the Manfion-Houfe laid $52 N. B. The three last Paragraphs in the Lady's Scheme, p. 526, being misplaced in the Prefs fhould be read the last first, and then upwards. We must defire our Readers to take notice alfo, that the monstrous Report mentioned concerning a particula Boarding School is affirmed to be entirely falfe, in an Advertisement published for that Purpose, and figned by the Vicar, and 12 Gentlemen of the Parish, of undoubted Credit, who examined into it, and who declare that they effeem that School and all the others in the Village concerned in the Education of Young Ladies to be fober, reputable, and well govera'd Schools. THE Gentleman's Magazine. OCTOBER, 1739. DEBATES in the Senate of LILLIPUT. (Continued from p. 469.) ..... Continuation of the Urg; Plemahm's Powers in Degulia must be affected by their Confequences. Hence it may be A fairly prefumed that thefe Powers are, UT, Sir, as I have had no in fome Refpect or other, interefted in Share in concluding the the feveral Steps that have been conConvention, or in carry- certed previous to the Conclufion of ing on the Negotiation this Convention, and confequently, Sir, preceding it, I can have fome of thefe Powers may have given no perfonal Motives for being against us, or Iberia, private Affurances of Afthe Motion. My Oppofition to it fiftance in cafe Things had come to a' proceeds from my being convinc'd, that Rupture. "Thefe Affrances can't fail his Majefty might with very good of being taken Notice of in fome one, Reafon refufe to communicate the Pa- or other of the Papers now mov'd to pers in Queftion to the Houfe, be- be addrefs'd for. And, Sir, I fhould fore the definitive Treaty is conclud be glad to know of any Gentleman, ed, fince they most probably contain C if the Power, who in the Event of a Matters no way proper to be divulged War was to have engaged as Second, to the World; and that if they were would not have good Reafon to look divulged, the Iberians would have a upon herself as betray'd by us to the good Excufe for breaking off all future Refentment of Iberia, thro' our expoConferences with our Minifters In fing to all the World the Engagements which Cafe, Sir, there is no doubt D fhe has entered into with us. Tfhould that they would be juftified by most likewife be glad to know, Sir, if we other Courts in Degulia. For it is could hope that fuch Power would my Opinion, that no Gentleman can ever enter into any Engagements with name any one Court in Degulia us for the future. which would not think itself nearly concerned in fuch a Proceeding, for this Reason, that it might probably one Day be their Turn to be treated in the fame Manner. But, Sir, there is another Reafon which I have not yet touch'd upon, and which shall be the only one I shall now trouble the House : Thefe, Sir, are my Reasons why I think our agreeing to the present E Motion may be attended with very, bad Confequences. He was aufwered by Wimgul Gumdahm, Hurgolen, as follows: SIR, with for my being against this Motion. FAM forry that I am obliged to difGentlemen are fenfible, that the fer from the Hon. Gentleman, who Differences betwixt us and Iberia are fits over-against me, in almost every of fuch a Nature, that feveral other Pro A C Propofition he has advanced. I F The Hon. Gentleman who spoke laft, Sir, appears to me to have been under two very great Mistakes; first, in fuppofing that his Majefty would take it amifs, if we should addrefs in G Terms of the prefent Motion; fecondly, in taking it for granted that the Contents of any Papers cannot be communicated to this Houfe without their being known to all the World. Sir, I am convinc'd that this Houfe. H never did, and I hope it never will, give his Majefty Reafon to fufpect that we are capable of purfuing any View confiftent with the Refpect we owe to him, as well as the Duty we owe to our Conftituents. While thefe, Sir, are the Maxims by which we regulate our Conduct, his Majesty, I dare fay, would never take any Proceeding of ours amifs; because, if we should ever addrefs for any thing that is improper for his Majefty to comply with, he will not look upon it as proceeding from want of Affection, but from want of better Information. This, Sir, leads me to the fecond Miftake the Hon. Gentleman seemsto be under. If by agreeing to this Motion we should address for Papers unfit to be communicated to the Publick, there is no doubt but we shall be informed from the Throne, in a regular Manner, that the Contents of some of the Papers we addrefled for ought not to be divulged. In the mean time, Sir, it is to be hoped that his Majefty will order thofe Papers that are proper for our Infpection to be laid before us. If it fhall be found, Sir, by the Houfe, that the Papers thus communicated are fufficient for our Information; if it shall be found, Sir, they are fufficient to give us a full and a clear Detail of the Negotiations that have preceded this Convention, there is no Occafion to trouble his Majefty any farther. But, Sir, if these Papers fhould relate to other Papers without which we must be ftill in the Dark, there is a Method by which this Houfe may be informed of all that is proper for them to know, and yet the Miniftry be in no Danger of having their Secrets divulged to the World. I mean, Sir, the Method of a fecret Committee, who may be appointed to make Extracts from these Papers relating to the Affair in Question as far as fhall be neceflary for the Information of this Houfe. I hope, Sir, Gentlemen don't fuppofe that the Breaft of a Minifter is the only Cabinet where a Secret of State can be fafely depofitcd. I dare fay, Sir, every Gentleman of this Houfe who fhall have the Honour to be of a secret Committee, will conceal the Proceedings of that Committee as inviolably as any Minister alive. The A B C D 1 The Hon. Gentleman, Sir, faid that the chief Point we are now to confider, is, Whether the Papers, which by this Motion we are now to address for, are not probably of fuch a Nature as to require the ftriaeft Secrecy at this Juncture? I think, Sir, from what I have faid, I have already obviated the moft material Difficulty that can poffibly arife from this Confideration : But, Sir, I confefs, that, for my own Part, I can fee no Grounds for fuppofing, that if our Miniftry have honeftly done their Duty, there can be any Secrets to be concealed from the Publick, orany Difficulties whatfoever. The Wrongs, Sir, that we have fuffered from Iberia were committed in the Face of the Sun. They were avowed by her Government, they were juftified by her Miniftry; the Means, Sir, which we pursued to obtain Juftice were long concealed from the Knowledge of the Publick; longer, Sir, p than, I'm afraid, was firicily confiftent with the Intereft, with the Honour of this Nation; and the more they were concealed, the Injuries, the Infults and Barbarities committed on our Subjects grew the more flagrant, and Iberia, by her Conduct, feem'd to aim at nothing fo much as to render it impracticable for our Miniftry any longer to ftifle the juft Complaints of our Merchants. At laft, Sir, after a long and fruitless Expectation of obtaining Redress by means of our MiF nifters, our Merchants were obliged to lay their Cafe before the Senate. We heard them fully, Sir, we heard them impartially; and they proved their Allegations to the Satisfaction, and the entire Conviction, of every Gentleman in this Houfe; to the Conviction, Sir, I believe, of those who had the greatest Reason to wish that they had not fucceeded fo well in their Proof as they did. Upon this, Sir, the House came to certain Refolutions, very plain, very practicable in their own Nature, which we then underftood were to ferve as a Direction to our Ministry in the fucceeding Part of their Negotiations. If, Sir, they have G ufed the proper Means for obtaining the Conceffions pointed out by thele Refolutions from the Court of Iberia; if they have unalterably purfued the Scheme which the Senate laid down for vindicating the Honour of the Empire, where can be the Harm, where the Dif ficulty, of publishing their Conduct to the World? Give me Leave, Sir, to fay, that it will be for their Interest that the Public be informed of their having acted as zealously for the Rights of the Empire as the Senate itself has done. This, Sir, will infpire the Subjects of the Empire with an Alacrity; it will induce them to fecond his Majefty's Endeavours with Vigour, fhould Matters proceed to an open Rupture. This, Sir, is an evident Advantage which both they and the Nation will gain; and if they have acted in the Manner which I hope they have, it is impoffible that there can be any prudential Confiderations for not agreeing to this Motion. Gentlemen, Sir, no doubt remember very well, that when this Houfe came to the Refolutions which were prefented to his Majefty laft Seffion, all the Treaties in Force betwixt us and Iberia were fully confidered and debated. I could have wifhed that our Refolutions had been conceived in ftronger Terms, and that we had been more peremptory in our Demands: But as Gentlemen did not think fit to agree to the Refolutions that were prefented by my Hon. Friend whom I have in my Eye, the Miniftry muft be acquitted by every impartial Man, if it fhall appear that they have faithfully and zealously conformed themselves to what appear'd to be the Sentiments of the Majority of this Houfe. Now, Sir, as thefe are no Secrets to the Public, I cannot conceive why any Proceedings whatever in Confequence of these Refolutions fhould be improH Fur to be communicated to this House. Give me Leave to fay, Sir, that it will found very ftrange to the World, if this Houfe fhould refufe to call for Papers, the Contents of which we have Reafon to prefume chiefly relate to? Q9g Negotiation |