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Mr. Stewart prefented a petition of Cornelius Marshall, of Caledon, in the county of Tyrone, cotton and linen manufacturer, praying aid to promote and extend the cotton manufacture; which was read, and referred to the confideration of a committee.

Several members took the oaths, made and fubfcribed the declaration, and took and fubfcribed the oath of abjuration, according to the laws made for those purposes.

General Luttrel prefented a petition of Thomas Reilly, of the city of Dublin, iron merchant, praying aid to bring the manufacturing and tilting of fteel, and other great branches of iron works, to perfection in this country; which was read, and referred to the confideration of a committee.

Mr. D. Brown acquainted the Houfe, that he had reason to think, from the information he had received, that part of the 100,000l. granted for raifing feamen for the fervice of the British navy, had been mifapplied, and employed to raife fencibles, to a very confiderable amount; he therefore moved, that the proper officer be ordered to lay before the Houfe an account of the precife day his Majefty's orders were iffued for ftopping the recruiting fervice in this kingdom; and the motion was feconded.

At the inftant General Luttrel arofe to fecond it alfo. He congratulated the Hon. Member on having mentioned the bufinefs; he faid if his information fhould prove true, it would be the business of the Houfe, and was the wifh of his heart to have it speedily and ftrictly inveftigated. Ordered accordingly.

The proper officer laid before the Houfe an account of the quantity of flour brought to Dublin from Lady Day, 1781, to Lady Day, 1783.

Mr. Smith moved that leave be given unto Andrew Ram Stephen Ram, and Abel Ram, Efqrs. for three days to attend an election. Granted.

Mr. G. Molyneux moved that the proper officer do lay before the House an account of the number of forces in this kingdom, when the 5000 troops were fent to Great Britain.-Ordered accordingly.

Mr. Bennet prefented a petition from Edward Kirwan, and Richard Martin, Efqrs. complaining of an undue election and return of the Right Hon. Denis Daly, and William Power Keating Trench, Efq; for the county of Galway.-Ordered to be taken into confideration the 29th of November.

Mr. David Latouche, acquainted the Houfe that a fevere illnefs kept him at home, the day that the business relative to the National Bank was brought forward by a Right Hon. Baronet. He affured the Houfe, that fince the bank opened, which was on the 24th of June laft, great advantage was reaped therefrom, particularly by the traders in linen, who had been advanced large fums at 57. per cent. That the business of the bank was conducted in the moft clear and regular manner, and that he thought great benefit would arife to the nation, if the feveral fums of money which remained in the hands of lawyers, were ordered to be paid into the bank; for which purpose he shortly intended to bring a bill into the House.

Sir Henry Cavendish affured the Hon. Member, when he moved for the inquiry, he did not mean to throw the least obloquy on the governors or directors, for whose characters he had the highest refpect.

Mr. Latouche obferved, fuch enquiries generally carried to the world an imputation or fufpicion.

Read an account of the various fums diftributed by the trustees of the Linen Manufacture from their firft inftitution.

The Hon. John Bourke reported from the committee, appointed to enquire into the ftate of the Foundling Hofpital and Work House, the refolutions which the committee had directed him to report to the Houfe, which he read in his place, and after delivered in at the table, where the fame were read.

Ordered, that the faid report do lie on the table for the perufal of the members.

Mr. Bourke alfo reported from the committee, appointed to examine the matter and petition of the commiffioners of Inland Navigation, the refolutions which the committee had directed him. to report to the Houfe, which he read in his place, and after delivered in at the table, where the fame were read.

Ordered, that the faid report do lie on the table for the perufal of the members.

The Right Hon. Mr. Secretary Pelham informed the Houfe, that he was commanded by his Excellency the Lord Lieutenant to acquaint them that his Majefty had been pleased to return a moft gracious anfwer to the addrefs of this Houfe, which he read in his place, and after delivered in at the table; and the fame was read by Mr. Speaker (all the members being uncovered) and is as followeth :

"GEORGE R.

"His Majefty returns his hearty thanks to the House of Commons for their dutiful and loyal addrefs, and for their congratulations on the increase of his family, and the restoration of the bleflings of peace.

"His Majefty receives with the greatest fatisfaction the de claration of his faithful Commons, that, duly fenfible of the fincerity and good faith manifefted by Great Britain in the facred regard fhewn on her part to the late adjustment of the conftitution and commerce of Ireland, they will earnestly concur in every measure that may confirm and ftrengthen the mutual confidence of both kingdoms, and that union in fentiment, as well as intereft, which is fo effentially neceffary to the ftrength, honour, and profperity of the empire."

"G. R."

Ordered, that his Majefty's most gracious answer be entered in the journals of this Houfe.

Refolved, nem. con. That an humble addrefs be presented to his Majefty, to return our most fincere thanks to his Majefty, for his moft gracious answer to the addrefs of this House.

Ordered, that fuch members of this House as are of his Majesty's Moft Hon. Privy Council do attend his Grace the Lord Lieutenant with the faid refolution, and defire the fame may be laid before his Majefty as the addrefs of this House.

The Right Hon. Mr. Secretary Pelham reported that the addrefs of this House to his Majefty, in favour of the children of the late Lord Chief Baron Burgh, had been prefented to his Excellency the Lord Lieutenant, and that thereupon his Excellency was pleased to return the answer following:

"I will take the firft opportunity of tranfmitting this address to be laid before his Majefty."

Ordered, that his Excellency the Lord Lieutenant's answer be entered in the journals of this House.

Mr. Hartley moved, that an account of the different exports and imports should be referred to the committee of trade.

Mr. Hartley prefented a petition from the Chamber of Commerce, ftating the unequal terms on which the trade of this kingdom was carried on; our ports thrown open to all English manufactures, on paying a moderate duty, whilft the English ports were either fhut against our manufactures, or fuch duties impofed on them as amounted to a prohibition: Therefore praying for prohibitory duties.

Mr. Attorney General obferved it would be proper that the petitioners fhould be named, a body ftiling themfelves the Council or Chamber of Commerce; after a fhort converfation the petition was referred to the committee.

Mr. Hartley alfo prefented a petition from the Broad Cloth working Manufacturers. Referred to a committee of trade.

Mr. Cuffe, after an eulogium on the late Sir William Osborne, which he concluded by faying, "We fhall not look upon his

like again," moved, that the Speaker do iffue his writ for elect ing a member in his room.-Ordered.

Mr. Fitzgerald prefented a petition from Robert Collelo, of Clane, in the county of Meath, praying aid for his Cotton Manufactory.-Alfo moved, that the proper officer lay before the House, an account of the progrefs of the tax on all falaries, employments, fees, and penfions paid for ten years paft, by perfons who have not refided fix months at any one time in the kingdom; diftinguishing the perfons by whom said tax has been paid; and the profits of their employments, as certified by the oaths of the receivers.

Mr. Clements moved, that the proper officers furnish an account of the different fums of 80841. 135. and 8032/. paid by him to the public coal yards.

Mr. Toler prefented a petition from the Hon. John James Maxwell, of the county Cavan, complaining of an undue election. 'Mr. Montgomery entering warmly into a defence of his conduct during the election, and reprobating the interference of Lord Farnham, was called to order; and after fome altercation filenced.

Mr. Montgomery propofed a refolution-That when a committee appointed to try the merits of a petition, shall declare it to be frivolous and vexatious, this House will pass a fevere cenfure on the petitioners.-Carried nem con.

Sir Edward Newenham presented a petition from Thomas Holland and William Plym, for themfelves and others, complaining of an undue election for the borough of Kilmallock; and another from the provoft and inhabitants of said borough; both of which were ordered to be heard the 4th of November, next.

The Provost prefented a petition of Henry and James Sadlier, of the city of Cork, Cotton Manufacturers, praying aid to promote and extend the faid manufacture.-Referred to the confideration of a committee.

He delivered to the Houfe two certificates in fupport of the faid petitions, which were referred to the faid committee.

The Hon. John Stratford moved, that the proper officer do lay before the Houfe the number of the perfons who have become bankrupts from the year 1777 to the prefent day, with the amount of the fum for which each bankrupt failed, and how much in the pound each bankrupt paid to his creditors, diftinguishing those who have obtained certificates.-Ordered accordingly.

Mr. Bulbe prefented a petition from Mr. Ellifon, master of Kilkenny fchool, praying aid to enlarge the fame.-Referred to a committee,

On this petition Mr. Bushe observed, hat nothing would more powerfully operate against gentlemen becoming abfentees, than making education convenient at home; that befide the vaft fums fent away to fupport pupils abroad, which might thereby be faved, it had a further effect, for in looking over the great and refpectable lift of noblemen and gentlemen educated at Kilkenny, he could find very few who afterwards became absentees; on the contrary, in looking over the absentee lift, he found that very few who compofe it had been educated in Ireland; this he thought arose from the affection men obtain for the place in which they spend their earlier and happier days, and where they form their first friendships and connections.

Mr. Bube was fupported by the Provo, who faid, that he had long feen the neceflity of two or more great public schools, fimilar to Westminster and Eton, being established in this kingdom. That in the North, a Right Rev. Prelate had already taken much pains to establish one; and, in the South, Kilkenny, from a number of circumftances, (befide the merit of Doctor Ellifon, who he thought peculiarly entitled to protection) was the proper place for another; the expence of education in England, he faid, was enormous; to his knowledge, it coft Sool. per ann. for feveral years, to fupport and educate three young gentlemen at Eton. He then lightly glanced over a scheme he intended to propofe, for eftablishing great fchools in Ireland, and faid at a convenient day he would bring it before the House.

Mr. Ponfonby prefented a petition from Richard Talbot, of Malahide, in the county of Dublin, fetting forth that petitioner has at very great expence brought over from England a compleat fet of machinery for perpetual spinning, (the firft that ever was imported into this kingdom) with proper people from thence to attend the fame, which will be of great advantage to this kingdom, by furnishing both to cotton weavers and hofiers that fpecies of thread fo neceffary to their manufactures, and fubmitting the premifes to the confideration of the Houfe.

Referred to the confideration of a committee.

Sir Henry Cavendish acquainted the Houfe that he would, after Christmas, move the House to reduce the interest of money to five per cent.

Mr. Crofton moved that an account fhould be laid before the Houfe of the application of the money, (eight thousand pounds) granted for making the Shannon navigable from Limerick to Killaloe. This fum had been granted on condition that a company fhould fubfcribe ten thousand pounds, which was foon done, and two thousand forthwith paid, which with the eight thousand, they immediately gave to a Mr. Hercules Brown, who undertook to complete the work. This gentleman however had done little or nothing, and the object of Mr. Crofton was to compel him to

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