Mr. Longfield (who had opened the journals) ordered the Clerk to read his Majefty's anfwer to that House, upon the addrefs prefented laft feffions relative to the Portugal businessit was read according, and contained the most affectionate terms, highly applauding the wisdom and prudence of the Irish parliament, and affuring his faithful Commons, that he would give his minifters, directly, instructions to interfere.

Mr. Longfield thought that another addrefs ought now to be prefented, in order to know what the refult of that interfe

rence was.

Sir Hercules Langrishe could not but admire the zeal of gentlemen for the good of their country, which was thus obftructing the measures of others, who had no zeal at all (here a loud laugh). He begged pardon, he meant no difference of fentiment, though the fame zeal made a difference of opinion; he was fure if the committee was let to fit, every thing would turn out fatisfactory to the general wish.

Mr. Toler now rofe, but the Speaker acquainted him, as he had already delivered his opinion on the queftion, unlefs he arofe to explain, he could not fuffer him to proceed; the order of the Houfe had been grofsly infringed the night before, he was fure it must be in the recollection of every gentleman prefent, and he was determined ftrictly to adhere to the rules of parliament in future. Mr. Toler immediately acquiefced.

The Attorney General faid, that laft feffions a motion for a committee, fimilar to that at prefent made, had been moved and refused, becaufe at that time an addrefs was thought proper. Negociation, it was hoped, would have had a due effect, and therefore it was deemed neceffary to try it; that negociation has taken place, and we are to fuppofe it has been unfuccessful, otherwife the refult of it would have been announced in his Excellency's fpeech from the throne. The fpeech being filent upon that head, negociation muft now be confidered as at an end. Ireland ought now therefore to step forward with becoming fpirit. He hoped that there would be no objection to going into a committee, and if afterwards gentlemen should think an addrefs neceffary, it might be adopted.

The motion was then agreed to, and a committee appointed. Mr. Foler moved a variety of refolutions, that the proper officers fhould lay before the Houfe an account of all articles of the growth, produce, and manufactures of Portugal imported into this kingdom for ten years, to the 25th of March, 1783, diftinguishing the quality and value of each article.-Agreed to.

General Cunningham, in the warmest terms, extolled the conduct of Sir Eyre Coote, K. B. who, he faid, was a native of this country; his behaviour had procured him the thanks of

both Lords and Commons in England, and an omiffion on our part might look like a neglect: he therefore moved the thanks of the Houfe to Sir Eyre Coote; which paffed nem. con.

Sir Edward Newenham faid, he had only that moment entered the House, therefore was not prepared to note the deficiency that appeared; that, after having thanked the General, he was furprised no thanks were moved to be given to one of the bravest admirals that ever fought under the British flag, but he would (though not a naval officer, or even acquainted with Sir Edward Hughes) move on to-morrow, a juft tribute of thanks to tranfcendant merit.

Sir Edward then moved for leave to bring in a bill for the better advancement of juftice, by afcertaining the qualifications neceffary for perfons taking commiffions of the peace for counties at large. Leave was granted accordingly.

Mr. Crofton reported a bill for afcertaining the qualifications of members to fit in parliament, which was read, and ordered to be read again on this day fe'nnight.-Ordered to be printed.

Sir Henry Cavendish obferving that the orders of one parliament were not binding on another, moved that all orders be revived.

Mr. Fofter thought this too general; fome orders would be improper: there was one, that no motion fhould be made after three o'clock in the day; he imagined therefore that a committee fhould be appointed to fee what orders were neceffary to be revived; at leaft, he hoped the gentleman would not make his motion 'till to-morrow.

Sir Henry agreed to wait 'till then, but could not defift 'till a committee should make a report; because while that committee was fitting, the confequence would be, the Houfe would be without any orders.-Adjourned 'till to-morrow.

THURSDAY, OCTOBER 30, 1783.

Mr. Burke prefented a petition of the commiffioners for promoting and carrying on the inland navigation in Ireland, praying a renewal of the tillage duties for the term of twenty-one years, with fuch further aid as to the wisdom of the Houfe fhall feem meet, for enabling the petitioners effectually to compleat the great national works now in execution.

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Ordered, that faid petition be referred to the confideration of a committee.

Mr. Cuffe prefented a petition from Richard Gore, Efq; praying leave to bring in a bill for fettling the will of the late Earl of Arran, and for payment of debts.-Referred to a committee.

Right Hon. John Foster prefented the petition of David Bofquet, praying for aid in the copper manufacture, and of his flatting and rolling mills.--Alfo, a petition from John and Henry Allen, woollen-manufacturers, praying aid to establish a manufactory in the county Wicklow.--Referred to a committee.

Mr. Hartley prefented a petition from the minifter, churchwardens, &c. of St. Nicholas without, praying aid for rebuilding faid church.

Mr. Clements prefented the accounts between the national bank and the treafury, as ordered on a former day.

Mr. Smith prefented fundry accounts of corn carriage by land and the canal, with bounties paid on the fame.-Ordered to lie on the table.

Sir Edward Newenham expreffed the fatisfaction it gave him to move a refolution in favour of as brave, and as worthy an officer, as ever fought; he heard of Sir Edward Hughes's eminent and diftinguished conduct, from one who fought against him, and who acknowledged, that it was owing to his abilities, courage, and perfeverance, that the British fleet was fo fucceffful on the 17th of February; that, when an enemy praises his opponent, there cannot be a ftronger proof of his virtues.Sir Edward then moved, and was feconded by Mr. Griffith,

"That the thanks of this House be given to Sir Edward Hughes, Knight of the moft Hon. Order of the Bath, for the important fervices performed by the fquadron under his command, in the Eaft Indies, on the 17th of February, and the 12th of April, 1782."

"That the thanks of this House be given to Commodore Richard King, the captains and officers, and feamen, for the important fervices performed by the fquadron under the command of Sir Edward Hughes, in the Eaft Indies, on the 17th of February and 12th of April, 1782; and that Sir Edward Hughes do fignify the fame to them.'

"That the Speaker do tranfmit a copy of the fame to Sir Edward Hughes."

Agreed to nem. con.

Mr. Griffith, after apologizing for his own diffidence, and lamenting that fome member of greater ability had not done it, moved the thanks of the House to Sir Robert Curtis, for

his gallant behaviour during the fiege of Gibraltar, and for his great humanity and uncommon abilities exercifed in faving the lives of the officers and foldiers belonging to the enemy.

Agreed to nem. con. and the Speaker to communicate the faid thanks, &c.

Mr. St. George presented the barrack accounts, as ordered on a former day. Referred to the committee of accounts.

Lord Charles Fitzgerald prefented a petition from the undertakers of the Grand Canal, praying the loan of 50,000l. to complete the navigation from the harbour of Dublin, to the river Barrow; the principal allegations in which petition were, that they have expended their whole capital of 100,000!. That they have perfected a navigation for 27 miles from the city of Dublin. That the work is incomplete until its communication with the rivers Barrow and Shannon be opened. That the carriage of goods on the line is amazingly reduced; that is, to two-pence an Irifh mile per ton on all goods, except lime, lime-ftone, turf, building-ftones, bricks, paving-ftones, gravel, foil, dung and manure for lands, which are only a half-penny a mile per ton. That the manufacturers of Dublin, who confume Kilkenny coals, will immediately fave fifteen thousand pounds per annum, in the difference between 2/. 10s. and 185. 4d. per ton. That when the communication is opened between Dublin and Lough Allen, the nation will fave in the article of coals 239,000l. per annum. That when they procure the loan of 50,000l. it will enable them on their own bottom to complete the work, and repay the loan.

Sir Henry Cavendish moved that all orders for regulating and keeping due order in the House be revived.

Mr. Fofter faid, Notwithstanding he fincerely and heartily wished that proper order and due decorum fhould be strictly observed in the Houfe, he must oppose the Right Hon. Member's motion as it then flood; for, by including all orders, great confufion would arife; as many of the orders which had been made, could not be closely adhered to, without retarding the business of the House, and appearing directly contrary to many now in ufe, and established by cuftom.

Mr. Monk Mafon faid a few words in oppofition to the motion, and placed it in fo ludicrous a light as to fet the House in laughter.

The Provost arofe, and, amongst other reafons, affigned the following against the motion. He faid, that if all orders were to be included, there was one which ordered the doors of the gallery to be locked each day, and the keys laid upon the table, before the House proceeded to any bufinefs; which order he

was very fure the Right Hon. Member would not wish the Houfe to obferve. Another order was, that if any person was to be examined before the House, he fhould first be fworn at the bar of the House of Lords. Another order faid, that if any man affaulted or infulted a member going to or from the House, he fhould be inftantly committed; though another order of the House faid, that in all cafes a man had a right to be heard in his own vindication. These were matters, he thought, would be found difficult to reconcile, if the orders were all moved together, and not separated, fo that the neceffary ones only might be revived.

Mr. Fefter moved an amendment, which was, that the orders of the Houfe fhould be specifically examined before a committee, and the neceffary ones only be revived. After fome little converfation, Sir Henry Cavendish withdrew his motion.

Mr. Foster moved for a committee to infpect and revive fuch orders of the Houfe as may appear neceffary.

Mr. Lowther moved for a committee to enquire into the ftate of the coal trade.-Adjourned 'till to-morrow.

FRIDAY, OCTOBER 31, 1783.

Committee of accounts, Mr. Mafon in the chair.

Mr. Fofter moved, that the proper officers fhould return an account of the particulars of 44,072/. which was returned as the arrear of hearth money to Lady Day, 1783.-Alfo the particulars of 32,402/. being the arrears of quit rents.-Alfo the fum of 69,135. 135. being the deficiency of the various collectionsAlso an account of what fteps had been taken against the difmiffed collectors, for their feveral arrears.

Mr. Gardiner moved, that an account be given of the amount of ftampt paper, delivered to the different officers of the customs, fince the firft eftablishment of the Stamp Office, fpecifying the manner in which the public have been reimbursed for faid ftamps.

Sir Henry Cavendish moved, that the proper officers fhould return the amount of the civil lift for two years preceding the years 1775, 71, and 83, distinguishing each period.-Alfo the amount of the military contingencies for the fame years.-Alfo the balances remaining in the Treafury on Lady Day, 1775, 71, and 83, diftinguishing each year,

Mr. Fofter moved, for an account of the ftorage provided for the laft eight years, fpecifying the charges under which they have been debited.