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(who this day appeared for the first time as Attorney General) moved, that Augustus Warren, Esq; the petitioner complaining of an undue election and return for the city of Cork, do attend at the bar. The Attorney General founded his motion on the report of the committee, which had declared that petition groundless, frivolous and vexatious ; and therefore he thought it incumbent on the House to assert its own dignity, by making an example, to deter others from such practices.
Sir Nicholas Lawless and Mr. Chatterton pleaded strongly in extenuation of Mr. Warren's offence. That it was possible he might not have known of the matters charged in his petition, which was drawn up by fome agent ; that from their knowledge of the gentleman's integrity and honour, they were convinced he had not taken any improper means to support it; and that as the lenity of parliament had extended to Mr. Stewart, a gentleman under similar circumstances, they hoped that the House would consider Mr. Warren's situation, who if called to the bar, must suffer fatal consequences.
Mr. Mafon.-No two things can possibly be more disimilar than the circumstances and conduct of the Right Hon. Mr. Stewart, alluded to, and the petitioner against the Cork return. The first gentleman, as soon as it was made known to him that improper charges had been introduced into his petition against the Noble Lord, the fitting Member, and against the Hon. High Sheriff, immediately waited upon them, and in the most honourable manner disavowed his knowledge of these charges; nor did he attempt in the least to support them. But what is the conduct of Mr. Warren ? He not only introduces the most heinous charges into his petition, but he attempts to support them by the evidence of a pack of perjured ruffians, who prevaricated so shamefully, that the House is obliged to send them to Newgate.
The Right Hon. Petitioner on the Down election, was intitled to much respect, not only from his rank as a privy counsellor, but for his amiable conduct through life~He had sat many years in this House, and in all that time had merited the good opinion of its members, and he had offered to pay the costs which his petition had incurred; but what offer has the petitioner made in the present cale, or in what point can his conduct be compared to that of Mr. Stewart?
Mr. Marcus Beresfort.-As I opposed the discharging of the order for bringing Mr. Stewart to the bar, I think myself Itrongly called upon to lupport the present motion-I attended on the committee, and had there an opportunity of seeing the most shameful charges, supported by the most villainous evidence ; by persons guilty of such open and barefaced perjuries, that I believe there has been no example of any thing similar, and I
hope that the justice of this House will prevent the like ever occurring again. It is said that calling the petitioner to our bar, may be attended with fatal consequences to him-- grant it may, it may be fatal to his election, it may prevent him from difpenfing bribes, and from corrupting such venal wretches as appeared before the committee—but the House will not, I truft, fuel much compunction for producing luch fatal effects.
The Provolt complained of the charges that had been wantonly made against him; how unfounded the committee's report, and the honourable opinion entertained of him for three and twenty years by the citizens of Cork, best demonstrated ; these charges he thought the more cruel, as he being at the head of the University, was bound to flew to the youth of the kingdom, an example of rectitude, from which, he trusted, he never had departed ; and any impeachment of character must be more severely felt by him, than by persons not standing in such a confpicuous point of view“ He observed that no equitable restitution had been thought of or offered by the petitioner, whose conduct was in every respect the very reverse of Mr. Stewart's.
A long desultory conversation now took place, which ended in the friends of Mr. Warren proposing, that he should pay the costs incurred by his petition; to which purpose the Attorney General moved a resolution that passed unanimously. · Sir Edward Newenham observed, that parliament was at the eve of a long recess; that it had sat for near three months, granting large supplies to the crown; it had passed that most oppressive--the stamp act--which must be explained and amended--it was too oppressive-yet no act was passed for the improvement of our constitution; he hoped gentlemen would return to that House with minds determined to support the rights and accede to the wishes of the nation, which expected an ade. quate reform of representation, a limitation of the influence of the crown, and protecting duties; without the latter, our boasted free trade will prove but an empty name : He moved, “ that the House be called over on Monday the 8th of February, and that the Speaker do write circular letters to the members, requiring their attendance, otherwise they would incur the cenlure of parliament.”- Sir Edward then gave notice, that as the names of the defaulters were called over, he would move, that such defaulter betrays the trust repored in him, by neglecting his duty.
Mr. Chatterton begged the advice of the House; he said he had been solicited to present a petition complaining of an undue election for Enniscorthy; that he knew nothing of the parties, or the merits of the petition, but requested to be informed whether he was bound to present the petition or not.
The Speaker said, that as every man who applied to the House was entitled to justice, and as their petitions could only be presented by members, he thought Mr. Chatterton ought to bring forward the petition.
The petition of Alexander English, Esq; complaining of an undue election and return for the borough of Enniscorthy, was ac- . cordingly presented by Mr. Chatterton,
And the House adjourned to Monday the 26th day of January next.
MONDAY, JANUARY 26, 1784. · The House met pursuant to adjournment.
Several members returned upon new writs, took the oaths and their seats accordingly.
Petitions were received from the linen manufacturers of the county of Tyrone, city of Londonderry, and town of Colerain, praying a restriction on the exportation of linen yarn.- Referred to the committee of trade,
A petition was presented, complaining of an undue election for Baltinglass.-Ordered to be considered on Friday the 13th day of February next,
Mr. Alexander English was ordered to lodge the corporation books of the borough of Enniscorthy, now in his poffeflion, with the Clerk of the House,
Writs were issued for the several places, in the room of the late appointed judges.
The order on the petition complaining of an undue election for the county of Clare, was discharged on the motion of Mr. Brownlow.
Leave was given that the Prime Serjeant, the Attorney General, the Solicitor General, Mr. Wolfe, Mr. Bennet, and Mr. Boyd, attend as council in the Lords on the appeal in the case of Hume and Loftus. · The order for going into the petition on the county Cavan election was discharged, but ordered to be considered on the roth day of February next.
Mr. Chatterton presented a bill for the relief of insolvent persons under certain descriptions. He observed, that it extended to the case of the unfortunate debtors, both in and out of the kingdom, who should petition the House, and be found worthy ;
but to prevent frauds, none could be entitled but those to be named in a schedule. He mentioned that infolvent acts usually liberated only the person of the debtor, but this bill also discharged his after-acquired property, upon this principle--that a man, giving up his all, ought to become a new man, otherwise there could be no room for future exertion in industry. He then moved, “ That all petitions of persons praying relief should be presented on or before the ist of March next, and no petition to be afterwards received. And for the purpose of preventing fraud, and to give notice to the fair creditcr, that an alphabetical list of the names, places of abode, and occupations of the several petitioners, should immediately after the laid ist of March, be printed and sent to the sheriff's of the several counties and cities, and to the chief magiftrates of the feveral cities and towns corporate in this kingdom, to be by them made public within their respective jurisdictions.”_ Ordered accordingly.
The Enniscorthy petition adjourned to the 18th of February The city of Clogher petition postponed to the 20th of February. The Kilmallock petition postponed to the 23d February.
Right Hon. Mr. Brownlow—Sir, an omillion of a very necessary measure took place the last day we met here, that was, Mr. Speaker, to return you our thanks for the very able speech which you then delivered in presenting the money bills at the bar of the House of Lords, a speech which reflected the highest honour on yourself, and gave the utmost satisfaction to the members of this House, whom I shall now move, to return you their thanks for your speech delivered at the bar of the Houie of Lords.-Whereupon the House
Refolved, nem con. That the thanks of this House be given to the Right Hon. Mr. Speaker, for the excellent fpeech made by him at the bar of the House of Peers, on presenting the money bills on Monday the 22d day of December, and that he be requested to print the same.
Mr. Attorney General said, that the sudden rise in the price of oats and barley had given very serious caute to apprehend a scarcity of these grains, particularly in the northern parts of the kingdoms, where the price was out of all proportion to the fouthern counties, as for instance, in Wexford oat-meal was gs. an hundred, which was a dear price for that county; but in Derry it was from 18s. to 205. Every species of grain was dear in the North, but oats being that on which the inhabitants chiefly depended, a scarcity thereof would be most felt, and that scarcity was every day likely to encrease, as, the distillers finding it impossible to supply themselves with barley, were every day buying up and malting greač quantities of oats, moreover by the ex
periment of last year, it had been demonstrated, that a supply of foreign oats could not be obtained, even by a bounty, whereas a supply of wheat was readily to be had. Upon these considerations he thought it necessary to move the House, that an humble address be presented to his Excellency the Lord Lieutenant, to desire that his Excellency will be pleased, with the advice of the privy council, to take such measures as may seem meet to prevent and to guard against a scarcity of oats and barley, of which, from the present high prices of such grain in many parts of the kingdom, there seem to be apprehensions, and well founded, and to assure his Excellency that this House will concur in such acts as may be thought necessary to give efficacy or sanction to the same.
Mr. Toler-I do not mean to give any opposition to the present motion, though I confess that I am not by any means a friend to embargoes į but I rise to inform the House, that any apprehension of scarcity is ill founded, for I am well assured, that in the southern counties there is the greatest redundancy of grain, and that an ample supply would be afforded from them to the north if the trade were free and open, but while mobs can assemble to regulate the corn trade by their own caprice, both the farmer of the south and the consumer of the north will suffer. At Clonmell, a mob of two hundred persons assembled by found of horn, and broke into the mills of some quakers, as worthy men as any in the kingdom, who by their industry and integrity have greatly contributed to the public advantage ; from these mills the mob took all the grain they could find, and, to prevent its being sent to the North, fold it for what they thought proper in the middle of the town, while, as I am well authorised to say, the mayor of Clonmell did not do what he ought to discourage or prevent this outrage. But I trust that government will take the most decided measures against those daring violators of the public peace, and all their abertors. I am the more anxious that the measure of an embargo should be well considered before it is adopted, as I am convinced the frequency of it will annihilate the corn trade of Ireland ; and as I am certain there is no occalion for it at prefent, for the very town of Clonmell, of which I have spoken, lying in the midst of a fertile country, could by means of the river Suir, send aslistance to the greater part of the north, if a sufficient force was stationed there to preserve the freedom of trade and the public tranquility; and I think his Excellency deserves praise for his exertion in fending a body of troops thither for that purpose.
Nr. Attorney General explained that he had not the measure of an embargo in contemplation.
Secretary Hamilton assured the House, that his Excellency had taken, and was determined to pursue the most vigorous measures