whom it originated, and who will, doubtlefs, give it the fulleft confideration. Major Doyle faid, he wished the bill to be received that it might be fairly rejected, for he thought it inconfitent with the good of the nation, and incompetent to its purposes. [The queftion was now loadly called for, it being near three o'clock in the morning of Sunday, when the Speaker rifing tɔ put it] Mr. Flood faid-I have often found when a question cannot be controverted by fair argument, it is thrown out by a majority calling for the queftion, but it is impoflible for the mind of man to bend to mere matter, or to be fatisfied with fuch conduct. I am asked, is not this bill the order of fome other affembly? I never received any order. I have examined with men of all ranks upon this fubject, and all approve it; but what appearance of hoftility or controul is there in the prefent application? Have the volunteers lined the ftreets, or drawn up before your houfe? No, they have given their opinion with all humbleness and deference to yours, and beg you will take it up. How could they more proftrate themselves at the feet of parliament? This bill was moved a year ago, when there was no convention fitting; and will you now reject it, becaufe men who fometimes wear words, and fometimes wear none, approve it? The volunteers of Ireland are a peculiar body of men, they are citizens as well as foldiers nor does their skill and difcipline, as foldiers, deftroy their franchife as citizens. ; Mr. Daly-I confefs I am afhamed that the gentleman who made this motion fhould not only evade giving an answer to the enquiry" Whether it was the refult of deliberations in the convention?" but almoft to deny it. Mr. Flood-I faid, they were my own fentiments. Mr. Daly-I did not fay they were not his own fentiments; but I fay, they are more notoriously the fentiments of the convention, whatever influence he might have had in forming them; and I fay, that he brings them here by order of that body-and I fay, that while an armed affembly is fitting in the capital, your debate is not free. He fays, it is impoffible for the mind of man to bend to mere majorities [Mr. Flood] I fay to mere matter. We are told of the great moderation manifefted by the delegates, confidering how powerfully they are fupported; but as I did not oppofe or fcorn the volunteers, when weak, as I never went to a county meeting, and with a contumelious afpect, afked if the county was arrayed, and be anfwered, no; never turned my back upon them; neither will I now, when they are ftrong and mighty, turn my back to them; but I will meet them as a friend, and will fay to them-You are advancing to anarchy and deftruction, I befeech you retreat while you may with honour, for there is a turbulent demagogue amongst you, that urges you to your own difgrace. It has been the misfortune of this country, that parliament has, in too many inftances, for a while withflood the wishes of the people, but has yielded in the end; the confequence is, that the people are told by the demagogue-perfevere, and you will at laft carry your point.-But this is the time to draw a line, and I do rely upon it-I pledge myfelf for the confequence, that if parliament act with firmnefs, the people will be content; in a fhort time they will defpife the promoters of faction; and all their boasted menaces will vanih in the air.But if parliament recedes one step now, will fall into a gulph of inevitable destruc tion. I am forry to have detained the House fo long at this hour, I would not have done it, but to request gentlemen will not go away, as motions of great importance will be made as foon as this is difpofed of. [The motions to which Mr. Daly alluded, were the refolution propofed by the Attorney General, and the addrefs by Mr. Conolly.] Upon a divifion, there appeared For receiving the bill, Against it 49 158 After the motion was decided, Mr. Attorney General moved the following refolution : Refolved, That it is now become neceffary to declare, that this Houfe will maintain its juft rights and privileges against all encroachments whatfoever. Ayes, 150 Mr. Thomas Conolly then made the following motion, which was carried unanimously: Refolved, That an humble addrefs be prefented to his Ma-. jefly, to declare the perfect fatisfaction which we feel in the many bleilings we enjoy under his Majefty's moft aufpicious government, and our present happy conftitution; and that at this time we find it peculiarly incumbent upon us to exprefs our determined refolution to fupport the fame-with our lives and fortunes. MONDAY, DECEMBER 1, 1783. Three money bills returned from the Lords, with their con... currence. Ordered, that they be brought to the Lord Lieutenant, to be cerrified to Great-Britain. A petition of the working worfted weavers of the town and neighbourhood of Rofcrea, in behalf of themselves and their very numerous brethren throughout the kingdom of Ireland, was prefented to the Houfe and read, fetting forth their diftreffes, arifing. from the large importations of foreign goods, and the unlimited exportation of the raw material, and that protecting duties would be the only means effectually to extend and improve the manufactures of Ireland, and fubmitting the premises to the confideration of the House. Ordered, That the faid petition be referred to the committee appointed to enquire into the ftate of the manufactures of this kingdom, and what may be found neceffary for the improvement thereof, and alfo into the quantity and value of the exports and imports of Ireland. The Right Honourable John Fefter prefented, to the Houfe, according to order, a bill for regulating and extending the tobacco trade, and for granting to his Majefty, his heirs and fucceffors, the duties therein mentioned; which was received and read a first time, and ordered to be read a fecond time to-morrow morning. Colonel Rofs prefented a petition of the inhabitants of Newry, fetting forth, that the exorbitant prices obtained by the farmers laft year have enabled them to keep up their produce for a high market, to counteract which petitioners conceive it neceffary to permit the importation of foreign grain, and that if the prices, bounties and duties were in this kingdom regulated by the hundred weight, it were better than referring to the measures of another kingdom, which are never used, and but little known in this country; and that the bounties and duties on oat-meal and oats fhould be regulated rather by the prices of the former than of the latter. Ordered, That the said petition do lie on the table for the perufal of the members. TUESDAY, DECEMBER 2, 1783. The names of the members were called over, and a committee chofen to try the merits of a petition, complaining of an undue election and return for the county of Cork, when the following gentlemen were chosen : Mr. Warburton, Mr. Bourke, Mr. Ufher, Mr. Creighton, Mr. Montgomery, Mr. Bayly, Hon. Mr. Taylor, Right Hon. Denis Daly, Sir Fitzgerald Aylmer complained of a breach of privilege committed by Mr. Jennings and John Muckleroy. They attended, and were called to the bar and examined, and ordered to attend to-morrow. A meffage from the Lords by Mr. Juftice Robinfon and Mr. Juftice Henn, that the Lords have agreed to an engroffed bill, fent up by this Houfe, intitled, an act for regulating the fugar trade, and for granting to his Majefty, his heirs and fucceffors, the duties therein mentioned, without any amendment; which bill the meffengers delivered at the table with their meffage. A meffage from the Lords by Mr. Juftice Robinson and Mr. Juftice Henn, that the Lords have agreed to an engroffed bill, fent up by this Houfe, intitled, an act to promote the linen and hempen manufacture, by encreafing the fupply of Irish flax-feed, and encouraging the export of linens and fail cloth, and for other purpofes therein mentioned, without any amendment; which bill the meffengers delivered at the table with their meffage. A meffage from the Lords by Mr. Walker and Mr. Vefey, two of the mafters in chancery, that the Lords have agreed to the addrefs to his Majefty, fent up by this House, and filled up the blank, by inferting the words "Lords fpiritual and temporal," and have refolved to attend his Excellency the Lord Lieutenant with the faid addrefs, with the whole Houfe; and having fent to know his Excellency's pleafure when he will be attended with the faid addrefs, his Excellency hath returned an anfwer, in which he hath appointed Wednesday the 3d day of December, at four of the clock, to be attended with the addrefs at the caftle, and that the Lords intend to be there at that time. And then the meffengers withdrew. Refolved, That this Houfe, with their Speaker, will meet the Lords at the caftle, at four of the clock, with the addrefs of both Houses to his Majesty. Ordered, That the Speaker of this Houfe do write a letter to' the Lords Commiffioners of the great feal of Great Britain, requefting that their Lordships will be pleafed to make an humble. application to his Majefty, defiring that one printed copy of the records of parliament, and alfo of the other valuable papers lately published by the Houfe of Lords, may be delivered to Thomas Ellis, Efq; Clerk of the Houfe of Commons, and deposited in the parliament-office for the ufe of the Houfe of Commons. A motion was made, and the queftion being put, that the number of members who have not ferved on felect committees in this fethon is infufficient to fulfil the purposes of the act, intitled An act to regulate the trials of controverted elections or returns of members to ferve in parliament, refpecting the choice of select committees it was carried in the affirmative. Lord Kilwarlin moved, that a committee of the whole House be appointed, to take into confideration the petition of the Grand Canal Company. Mr. Fitzgibbon faid-The petition was to enable that company, to open a communication from the Grand Canal to the Shannon. He faid, in the profecution of their intended work they had a precipice to go down, and a hill to cut through. He faid, he fhould oppofe the appointing of a committee on this petition. Lord Kilwarlin withdrew his motion. A petition of the fmall-beer brewers of the city of Dublin was received, and referred to a committee. Lord Delvin prefented to the Houfe, according to order, a bill for vefting certain lands and premifes therein mentioned, part of the eftate of the Right Honourable Thomas Earl of Louth, in trustees, for raising a fum, not exceeding 60,000l. by fale or mort gage of a competent part thereof, to be applied to the purposes therein mentioned; which was received and read a first time, and ordered to be read a fecond time to-morrow morning. Ordered, That the Right Honourable John Fofter do attend his Excellency the Lord Lieutenant with an engroffed bill, intitled an act for regulating the fugar trade, and for granting to his Majefty, his heirs and fucceffors, the duties therein mentioned, and defire that the fame may be certified into Great Britain pursuant to the act for that purpose, and then returned to this Houfe. Ordered, That the Right Honourable John Fofter do attend his Excellency the Lord Lieutenant with an engroffed bill, intitled an act to promote the linen and hempen manufacture, by encreafing the fupply of Irifh flax-feed, and encouraging the export of linens and fail cloth, and for other purposes therein mentioned, and defire that the fame may be certified into Great Britain pursuant to the act for that purpose, and then returned to this House. Lord Delvin-I move that the feveral goalers in this kingdom. do make returns of all fuch perfons as are now confined in their refpective prifons for debt. The Houfe, according to order, refolved itself into a committee of the whole House, to take into confideration a bill for facilitating the trade and intercourfe between this kingdom and the United States of America; and after fome time spent therein, Mr. Speaker refumed the chair, and the Right Honourable John Fofter reported from the committee that they had gone through the faid bill, and that he was directed to report when the House will please to receive the fame. Ordered, That the report be received to-morrow morning. |