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had been seen at the chapel doors in this city. He had heard of many addreffes, but he believed they were all folicited and procured by the Earl himself.

Sir Henry Hartftonge affured the House the addrefs from Limerick was not folicited, and that it contained the sentiments of the people at large of every religion.

Mr. Adderly. I confine myself to the address from the Roman Catholics.

Mr. Cuffe affured the Honourable Member, he had been a witnefs to the distress it gave Earl Temple, when juftice compelled him to give orders for fuing him, and that nothing but the welfare of the state could occafion it--He remarked that the laft obfervation made by Mr. Adderly, put him in mind of an affair which happened when the late Earl of Chesterfield was Chief Governor here. Some perfons véry officiously waited on the viceroy to inform him his coachman was a Papift, to which the Earl replied, with his ufual pleasantry, "It may be, but I will take care that he never fhall drive me to mafs."

The Right Hon. John Beresford faid, he could affure the House, that the addreffes from the county of Waterford to Earl Temple were fpontaneous, and were never folicited. He had been many years in a public station, and been with Chief Governors relative to bufinefs, and declared he never faw fuch affiduity and attention to business in a Chief Governor, as he experienced in Earl Temple. When this Houfe comes to inveftigate the public papers, they will fee the œconomical hand of Lord Temple in a variety of inftances.

Sir Samuel Bradstreet. I fhould not have expreffed my fentiments of Lord Temple's conduct, the virtues of which are so thoroughly understood by the whole kingdom, but that an affertion fell from the Hon. Member on the floor, which makes it neceffary for me to rife. He fays, that addreffes were procured in the feveral counties by Lord Temple himself; and being contradicted in that, he has thought proper to confine his affertion to the city of Dublin. It belongs to the office I have the honour to fill, tò prepare addreffes of the kind, when agreed on by the corporation; but I can with truth affert, that until the addrefs was agreed on by the city, Lord Temple had no knowledge of it. I can make great allowance for the forenefs of the Hon. Member's feelings; he has felt Lord Temple; but, although juftice required that the offence fhould be punished, yet I am fatisfied the humanity of his lordship, had a tear of compaflion for the offender.

Sir Henry Cavendish faid, he could very well fuppofe that some gentlemen had opportunities of knowing the integrity and wif dom of Earl Temple; but in his opinion it was fit the House should have authentic evidence of it before they paffed a vote of thanks to Lord Temple, who never met parliament. In his opinion, this

queftion fhould be poftponed for a few days; they would then fee whether he had the economical hand which had been mentioned. -Whether he deferves thefe encomiums or not. Public fame has not spoken of Lord Temple as he has been spoken of in this Houfe; public fame reprefents Lord Temple as a jobber; therefore, if I am to give my vote this night, I will give this resolution a negative-If it is poftponed, and I have authentic documents of his integrity and wifdom, I think I fhall give him my vote, which in my prefent uninformed ftate I shall not do.

Right Hon. John Scott obferving a paufe in the House, arose and faid-When this motion was introduced by a Right Honourable Member of amiable and diftinguished character, and when I saw it so ably supported by the two Right Honourable Gentlemen who followed him, (Mr. Rowley and Mr. Cuffe) I did not think it poflible that there could have been a fingle negative to it, especially as this Houfe is only invited to declare collectively, these fentiments which every Irishman has spoken individually-this House is now only called upon to re-echo the voice of the whole nation, and to dignify it in the language of parliament.-I cannot indeed fay that I am forry to have found that in the whole Irish nation, there were but two perfons difpofed to refift the fenfe of their country-and be it remembered that they were the debtors of our Sovereign Lord the King; but their reasons and their motives fufficiently explain themselves, and in my apprehenfion, compleat the panegyric which a grateful nation beftows upon a moft virtuous and deferving Governor. Indeed nothing lefs than Lord Temple's firmnefs could have refifted fo many engaging qualifications as affaulted his humanity in the perfon of the Honourable Gentleman. But to take leave of him, and apply myself to the Right Honourable Gentleman who principally opposes this address, and fays roundly, that common fame calls Lord Temple a jobber, adding that common fame may be a common liar, I do affert, not knowing from what cavern the Right Honourable Gentleman has received the report, imperfonated as the may be, and reprefented through whatever lips fhe is, I fay, a common liar, if the fays that Lord Temple was a jobber- I received no favour from Lord Temple, or from his adminiftration-I was not even connected with him by the common ties of conviviality, but I ftand forth an impartial witnefs of his conduct and his merit, to maintain the consistency and characteristic generofity of Ireland. I knew Lord Temple to be a man devoted to public bufinefs, fingularly endowed of uncommon firmnefs and talents, and indefatigable in the purfuit of every object that could contribute to the honour or advantage of this kingdom. No less than thirty counties have offered him their voluntary thanks, and yet the Right Honourable Gentleman wants authentic evidence to juftify his approbation.-I will give him more authentic evidence the umpire of the Almighty, confcience, the confcience of eve

ry honeft man in this nation.-But the Right Honourable Genman fays, poftpone the queftion; to procraftinate, is to evade.

The man convinc'd against his will,
Is of the fame opinion ftill.

But for the fake of the prefent adminiftration alfo, I hope there will not be a negative.-No man who wishes well to it, especially the Right Honourable Gentleman, confidering how connected and circumftanced, can prudently oppofe this motion. I have not the honour of knowing much of his prefent Excellency, but I have heard his character to be that of a gentleman, and his feelings to be thofe of nobility; and I am perfuaded, that he would difdain the support of any man who offered to adorn him-by laurels pillaged and torn from the brow of his predeceffors-there will be praife fufficient for them both, and I hope and doubt not they will both equally deferve it. I beg pardon, for having ta ken up the Houfe fo long upon a fubject upon which I thought I should not have been permitted, much lefs have found it necef fary, to articulate a word; but if in the warmth of what I have felt, and what too haftily I may have delivered, any thing offenfive unluckily has escaped me, it was far from my thoughts or my intention, my purpose being, if poffible, to conciliate all men, and not to offend any.

Sir Henry Cavendish arofe, apparently much agitated, and faid, that most conscientious gentleman did not confine himself to affign reafons for his own conduct, but thought proper to attribute motives to others, who, he begged to fay, are not debtors to the King. [Mr. Scott interrupting, faid they were.] Sir Henry proceeded to fay, that Mr. Scott had raised a laugh at the expence of parliamentary decorum, and that that gentleman poffeffed the art of treating matters of the greateft, moment with levity, and turning them into ridicule. That he (Sir Henry,) had been a lofer by fuits with the crown, in which, he doubted not, the Right Honourable Gentleman, when a fervant of the crown, had been a fufficient gainer.

Mr. Scott rofe again, and faid, smiling, he believed the House expected he should fay a word in reply; he obferved the tones of the Right Honourable Gentleman, were the tones of difcontent, and he meant, if he could, to foften them. He added, I admit the charge, heinous as it is, that I am no enemy to laughter, perhaps it may be, that I am not afraid of being for ever ridiculous. The Right Honourable Baronet feems to complain that I have availed mytelf of his misfortunes; but if it be his misfortune to be for ever in the wrong, how can I help being fometimes in the right, who generally differ from him. I will fay but one word more--The Right Hon. Gentleman feems to think there is

fill a balance in his favour, to which in the words of Sir Wilful Witwould, I anfwer, "If I fill owe you any thing, make out your bill, coufin, and I'll pay you off."

Mr. St. George faid, he was not a debtor of our lord the king, and yet he muft give his diffent to the refolution proposed-that there were fome characters of fuch a nature, that the lefs he faid about them the better; and he looked upon Lord Temple's, as a Chief Governor, in that light: that with refpect to the department to which he belonged, his lordship left the establishment of the barracks greater than he found it, and under his own new ideas of reform, had laid the foundation of a confiderable increase of expence to the kingdom under that head: that he admitted his lordfhip deferved praife for his great affiduity in bufinefs, and he believed he could not be charged with want of integrity to the public; but that he doubted his wifdom, for he certainly wanted judgment that in his opinion there had not been any Lord Lieutenant here during the prefent century, more unfit to govern this kingdom as a reprefentative of Majefty, than Lord Temple, for he was of an arbitrary difpofition, and if he had remained here long enough to hold a feffion of parliament, he was confident it would neither have contributed to his honour, or to the profperity or quiet of the people :, that he therefore thought any change of fuch a Chief Governor would have been an advantage to the kingdom; but he looked upon the acquifition in his room, of a nobleman of fo excellent a difpofition as our prefent Chief Governor to be a most fortunate circumftance for the nation in these critical times. That with these fentiments he could by no means concur in a motion for an address of thanks, where it appeared to him to be fo little merited that he was forry the subject had been introduced, as otherwife he would have remained filent thereupon; but that now he could not avoid giving his moft hearty negative to the motion.

Mr. Clements faid he had tranfacted public business with Earl Temple, and never met in any Chief Governor one more indefatigable, or who had the interests of Ireland more at heart.

Sir John Blaquiere alfo joined, and ably maintained in the fame fentiments; as did Mr. Fitzgibbon, and several other members.

A divifion having enfued, the numbers for the address were 127; against it, one, befides the Tellers.

Tellers for the ayes, Mr. Gardiner and Mr. Rowley.

Tellers for the noes, Sir Henry Cavendib and Mr. St. George.

Sir Henry Cavendish faid he had a motion to make respecting the intereft of money; but as he wished the members of administration would take it off his hands, he would defer it for another opportunity.

It was accordingly agreed that this matter should be taken into confideration between this and Christmas.

Several motions were made for writs, in the room of members who took their feats for other places; after which the Houfe adjourned 'till to-morrow.

THURSDAY, OCTOBER 16, 1783.

Mr. Hartley moved for the continuance of the importation of corn at the fmall duty, as the poor were in a miferable fituation, and bread at little more than 7lb. the fhilling; added to this, that there were fhips at Liverpool and other places, ready to bring fuch wifhed-for relief to this kingdom.

Mr. Fofter was getting up to fpeak, when Mr. Pelham acquainted the Houfe that his Excellency the Lord Lieutenant was ready to receive the addrefs; whereupon the Speaker and the House went up with the address.

Petitions were prefented from the Right Hon. Robert Stewart, complaining of an undue election for the county of Down; and from Mr. Bagwell, complaining of the fame in the city of Cork; which were all received, and days appointed for going into committees.

Mr. Corry moved, that the committee to inveftigate the regu lations for Eaft-India goods, fhould have leave to fit notwithstanding any adjournment of the House.

The Attorney General obferved, that the great alterations which had lately occurred not only in our own ftate, but also in that of England, demanded fome time, and a more mature confideration, than taking up fo minute a part at this time. A fyftem of commercial laws must be entered into, and he could not help obferving, that this fingle enquiry upon one branch of commerce, was frivolous, compared to the other great object.

Mr. Corry was aftonished at the Right Hon. Gentleman's calling it a minute part. And in what fenfe did he mean to apply the term frivolous? If he meant to establish a great commercial fyftem, was it not evident that it must be accomplished by a minute eftimation of feperate parts to form the grand fyftem he adverted to. It was not fair to beftow the epithet frivolous on a matter that would appear of as much importance as any that could come before the Houfe this feafon. It was a motion involving not only commerce, but conftitution and law, and fhould not be treated with the idea of being frivolous, after what was faid in the laft paragraph of the fpeech from the throne, which fo ftrongly recommended the care of our commerce. The House ought immediately to proceed on the great business of commerce.

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