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Because I was not able to personally attend the Subcommittee's
hearings on child pornography, I wish to request that this letter
be made part of the official hearing record on that subject.

Many of my constituents in the Second District of Louisiana have
written to me to express their deep concern over reports about the
widespread existence of child pornography. This matter has received
a great deal of attention in our local press because some experts believe
that New Orleans is a center for this kind of activity, as well as other
cities throughout the country.

While the publication and distribution of obscene printed materials and films depicting sexual activity with children is certainly deplorable in and of itself, I feel that an equally important issue is abuse of those children used for such materials. The evidence increasingly points to a connection of child pornography with organized crime, child prostitution (of both girls and boys), criminal abuse of runaways, and of sexual and other physical or mental abuse of children by parents or others charged with their care.

Fortunately, the publicity surrounding child pornography is educating the public about this problem, and I am pleased to note that in response the Louisiana state legislature recently passed stronger legislation prohibiting such activity. For the information of the Subcommittee I am enclosing articles about the Louisiana bill.

By conducting hearings on child pornography, the Subcommittee demonstrates the concern of the Congress over this terrible form of child abuse, and I urge the Subcommittee to consider ways in which the Federal Child Abuse Act can be made to apply specifically to child pornography.

My kindest regards and many thanks.

Sincerely,

Landy Bogga

Lindy (Mrs. Hale) Bogg, M.C.

LB: mg

July 8, 1977

Congress of the United States
House of Representatives

Washington, D.C. 20515

The Honorable John Brademas, Chairman
Select Education Subcommittee

2178 Rayburn House Office Building

Dear Mr. Chairman:

As the hearings on the Child Exploitation Prevention bill have progressed, a couple of points have arisen that would seem to require a response from the authors of the bill in terms of their legislative intent. For this reason, we would respectfully request that this letter and the enclosed report prepared by the Library of Congress be contained as part of the record of the hearings. First, the majority of the witnesses have dealt with the legislation as if it were designed to be a new piece of obscenity legislation. That was definitely not our intent in introducing the legislation. As offensive as we personally find obscene materials, our overriding concern from the beginning has been to protect children from being sexually abused by commercial exploiters. One of the first things which we investigated was the possibility of amending the Child Labor Act. We feel that the bill before you should be viewed in this light, i.e., that it was intended as a protective measure, not as a censorship measure.

One thing that has become painfully apparent throughout the course of the hearings is that the sexual abuse of children is a serious problem which is more prevalent than any of us suspected. There is a need for protective legislation on both federal and state levels. No single-faceted approach will wipe out this blight. There is a need for a range of actions. These should stretch from treatment facilities for families to criminal sanctions for commercial sexual exploitation.

There have also been statements made in the course of the hearings that any limitations on the publishing industry are unconstitutional. We would like to point out that there is ample precedent for protective legislation to apply to the publishing industry. The enclosed Library of Congress report points out that provisions of the Fair

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July 8, 1977
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Labor Standards Act have been held specifically applicable to the publishing industry by the courts. It also points out that goods produced in violation of a protective statute can be treated as "hot goods" or contraband throughout the chain of commerce. In this light, we feel that the proposed bill falls well within the bounds set by the Constitution.

We would like to convey our personal thanks for the attention which you have given this problem and for the responsible manner in which the hearings have been held.

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SUBJECT:

Applicability of the "Hot Goods" Provision (29 U.S.C. §212 (a)) of the Fair Labor Standards Act to the Sale of Child Pornography.

This responds to your request for a discussion of the applicability of the "hot goods" provision, 29 U.S.C. §212(a), of the Fair Labor Standards Act to the retail sale of child pornography. That provision prohibits the shipment in commerce of goods which have employed the use of oppressive child labor in their manufacture.

An analysis of the applicability of that provision to the sale of child pornography will include relevant case law, the definition of "goods" and "dealers" and the applicable regulations issued by the Secretary of Labor. We do not deal here with any constitutional issues that might arise because of the necessary relation of the application of the provision to the content of the goods.

It is noted first of all that the publishing industry is subject to the provisions of the Fair Labor Standards Act. The

United States Supreme Court in Oklahoma Press Publishing Co. v. Walling, 327 U.S. 186, 192-193 (1946) stated:

The broadside assertion that petitioners "could not
be covered by the (Fair Labor Standards) Act," for

the reason that "application of this Act to its
newspaper publishing business would violate its
rights as guaranteed by the First Amendment,"
is without merit... If Congress can remove
obstructions to commerce by requiring
publishers to bargain collectively with
employees and refrain from interfering with
their rights of self-organization, matters
closely related to eliminating low wages
and long hours, Congress likewise may
strike directly at those evils when they
adversely affect commerce.

Under the Fair Labor Standards Act the term "goods" is defined

generally at 29 U.S.C. §203(i) to include the following:

goods (including ships and marine equipment) wares,
products, commodities, merchandise or articles or
subjects of commerce of any character, or any part
or ingredient thereof, but does not include goods
after their delivery into the actual physical
possession of the ultimate consumer thereof
other than a producer, manufacturer or processor
thereof.

"Goods" have been held to specifically include books. Brennan v. Indiana, 517 F. 2d 1179 (7th Cir. 1975). By regulation issued by the Secretary of Labor "goods" are said to include written materials such as newspapers, magazines, brochures, phamplets, etc. 29 C.F.R. $779.107.

A retailer does not appear to be an ultimate consumer, so a retailer would not come under the exclusionary clause in the above definition of "goods". The exclusion was intended to apply to goods which, having reached the hands of the ultimate consumer, have been withdrawn from further traffic and sale. Hamlet Ice Co, v. Fleming, 127 F. 2d 165 (4th Cir. 1942), cert. den. 317 U.S. 634 (1942); Chapman v. Home Ice Co., 136 F. 2d 353 (5th Cir. 1943), cert. den. 320 U.S. 761 (1943). Since a retailer sells goods he is not an ultimate consumer.

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