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IMPLEMENTATION OF THE NATIONAL
CLIMATE PROGRAM ACT: II

96-1

HEARING

BEFORE THE

SUBCOMMITTEE ON

NATURAL RESOURCES AND ENVIRONMENT

OF THE

COMMITTEE ON

SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY

U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

NINETY-SIXTH CONGRESS

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COMMITTEE ON SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY

DON FUQUA, Florida, Chairman

ROBERT A. ROE, New Jersey
MIKE MCCORMACK, Washington
GEORGE E. BROWN, JR., California
JAMES H. SCHEUER, New York
RICHARD L. OTTINGER, New York
TOM HARKIN, Iowa

JIM LLOYD, California

JEROME A. AMBRO, New York

MARILYN LLOYD BOUQUARD, Tennessee
JAMES J. BLANCHARD, Michigan
DOUG WALGREN, Pennsylvania
RONNIE G. FLIPPO, Alabama

DAN GLICKMAN, Kansas
ALBERT GORE, JR., Tennessee
WES WATKINS, Oklahoma
ROBERT A. YOUNG, Missouri
RICHARD C. WHITE, Texas

HAROLD L. VOLKMER, Missouri

DONALD J. PEASE, Ohio

HOWARD WOLPE, Michigan

NICHOLAS MAVROULES, Massachusetts
BILL NELSON, Florida

BERYL ANTHONY, JR., Arkansas
STANLEY N. LUNDINE, New York

ALLEN E. ERTEL, Pennsylvania
KENT HANCE, Texas

JOHN W. WYDLER, New York
LYRRY WINN, JR., Kansas

BARRY M. GOLDWATER JR., California
HAMILTON FISH, JR., New York
MANUEL LUJAN, JR., New Mexico
HAROLD C. HOLLENBECK, New Jersey
ROBERT K. DORNAN, California
ROBERT S. WALKER, Pennsylvania
EDWIN B. FORSYTHE, New Jersey
KEN KRAMER, Colorado

WILLIAM CARNEY, New York
ROBERT W. DAVIS, Michigan
TOBY ROTH, Wisconsin
DONALD LAWRENCE RITTER,
Pennsylvania

BILL ROYER, California

HAROLD A. GOULD, Executive Director

PHILIP B. YEAGER, General Counsel

REGINA A. DAVIS, Chief Clerk

PAUL A. VANDER MYDE, Minority Staff Director

SUBCOMMITTEE ON NATURAL RESOURCES AND ENVIRONMENT

JEROME A. AMBRO, New York, Chairman

GEORGE E. BROWN, JR., California JAMES J. BLANCHARD, Michigan WES WATKINS, Oklahoma STANLEY N. LUNDINE, New York

ROBERT S. WALKER, Pennsylvania
EDWIN B. FORSYTHE, New Jersey
DONALD LAWRENCE RITTER,
Pennsylvania

IAN W. MARCEAU, Staff Director
RADFORD BYERLY, Jr., Science Consultant
PAUL C. MAXWELL, Science Consultant

IMPLEMENTATION OF THE NATIONAL

CLIMATE PROGRAM ACT: II

THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 15, 1979

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,

COMMITTEE ON SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY, SUBCOMMITTEE ON NATURAL RESOURCES AND ENVIRONMENT, Washington, D.C. The subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 2:15 p.m., room 2325, Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. Jerome A. Ambro (chairman), presiding.

Mr. AMBRO. I would like to open these hearings.

Today's hearings are aimed at gathering information that will be useful to this subcommittee in its oversight of the National Climate Program Act, Public Law 95-357. [The text of Public Law 95-367 appears as Appendix A to these hearings.] I would like to say a few words in further explanation of what we hope to accomplish here.

It is necessary to begin with a little background. As passed, the act has two themes which are rather new in this area. First is the idea that the ultimate users of climate information and services should be intimately involved in planning and carrying out the program. Closely related to this is an emphasis in the legislation on delivery of services and information to the users.

The second new departure is the emphasis on broad use of climate information in planning various sectors of the economy. The other side of this coin is the assessment of the impacts of climate and climate change on various sectors of the economy, and this is also emphasized in the act.

Thus, it was clearly the intent of Congress that the program be broader than physical science research-that it reach out to society and apply what is known.

The act provided for an "Inter-Governmental Climate Program" which would bring the States institutionally into the national program as one means of accomplishing the goals of the act. Also called for in the act was a 5-year plan, a preliminary version of which was submitted to us in July. It was unacceptable.

The preliminary plan was rejected in part because, except for lipservice, it essentially ignored the two new thrusts of the legislation. The so-called plan was only an endorsement of ongoing activities, principally in research and monitoring.

It was particularly disturbing that the administration, through testimony by the Office of Science and Technology Policy, defended this philosophy. They said that more research is needed before we can apply the results. As to service delivery and impact assessment, they questioned out "readiness" and suggested that we proceed with "a little more caution and a little less technological optimism."

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